1: If you have noticed, lucorio DOES NOT have a pre-evo, if it does, then the admin would of put it on the web site.
If
you had noticed, you'd look in my sig and notice that I actually have a copy of the jap version of Pokémon Diamond. But hey, you want proof?
One picture of Lucario, as his sprite features in Diamond and Pearl
One picture of Lucario's Pre-evolved form:
And since i'm an admin (which, if you had noticed, you'd see near my avitar)... I think that proves we're not lying. For reference, Almost all (if not all) of the new pokemon sprites are avalible for to view in the pika club 4.0,
They can be gound here...
http://www.thepikaclub.com/main/modules ... ?itemid=12 and back in october when this page was made, a link to it was posted on the main page in a news article.
Right, Pre-evo argument over, lets get on with the rest of this.
2: Lucario has too much power to be a normal pokemon, and, if it was one, then why whould it of been sealed in the staff? and why didn't we see more of them in the movie?
Ash's Pikachu has too much power to be a normal pokemon as well... dont see anybody else call it a legendary though
Ok, remember that the start of the movie was set 'before pokeballs even existed' - so really being sealed in the staff was a form of being put in a pokeball. Why didnt we see more of them? Maybe there region they actually inhabit isnt actually near where the movie was set?
In the Diamond/Pearl games your given an egg with Lucario's pre-evo much in the same way as your given Togepi in the Gold/Silver/Crystal. You wouldnt say Togepi was legendary, just rare. There is a difference.
6: Dude, If Lucario can Take on the Regis/Statues, who are legendarys, all at the same time and win, He is defenly a legendary! Because, if not even Lugia managed to beat his Trio, but Lucario can, I have some MAJOR evidence!
I love this one, and it took me a little while to counter it. You are right, Lucario fights the Regis. But Pikachu also thundershocks Onix and Geodude constantly through varius movies and animes... now you can correct me if i'm wrong (and beleive me when i say i'm not wrong about this) but both Geodude and Onix are part ground type... and Electric attacks are completly innefective against ground types.
So why does this happen? Well there's this thing, called Artistic licence. Sometimes you do things in the anime and movies that isnt possible in the games in order to improve the story. Lucario being traped in a staff, able to comunicate to humans, use some kind of aura sense, and beating Regis... oh and for reference, many people can beat regis... my umbreon can beat regis. Not hard, just training.
7 points of argument would be impressive if they all didnt revolve around the whole 'Lucario was in the movie thing' - we're also mainly talking about the Diamond and Pearl games here, so most of those points are actually irrelevent. Still, good points to bring up none the less.
This whole topic seems to hark back to the
'How do you define a legendary Pokémon'
Now, we seemed to mostly agree on the two points that defined a legendary
1. The 'only one' per game rule, which states that you can only get one per game and you can not catch another without trading (or cheating). Since this adds pokemon like Castform and eevee to the list...
2. Breeding. If it can not breed with anything, including ditto, then there is no chance of obtaining a second one of that pokemon without trading (or cheating).
At this point I want to point out two things. one is, yes i did come up with those rules. the other is that you, Secreyes agreed with the rules. So based on these rules and what we know of diamond/pearl Lucario is not a legendary because:
A: It does meet the first requirement. You recieve an egg of Lucario's pre-evo which you can then hatch and evolve (via happiness) into Lucario. This is the only one you can get, as niether Lucario or its Pre-evo can be found in the wild.
B: Lucario
can breed. this means you can get another Lucario pre-evo and evolve, thus you can obtain 2 Lucarios on one game without trading or cheating.
By these rules alone, I have proved that Lucario is not a legendary.
Oh and your given an egg with Lucario's Pre-evo in it... When have you ever been
given a legendary within a game? (Thanks to Robert for pointing that out to me)
(Before anybody chimes up that Manapy is legendary and can breed, I wish to point out that Manapy's 'pre-evolved' form can
not evolve into Manapy. Thus you can't get two Manapy's on one cart without trading/cheating. And yeah, Know that technically you trade Manaphy's egg to your cart in the first place and does complicate things a little. The second rule does need to be slightly modified to state breeding then evolving to get a second on one cart without trading/cheating.)
they are? well i don't have it, so i shouldn't know.
Togetic!!! 
(Maybe Pika... 
)
